Sunday
Jun142009
Eric Freaking Meyer {26}
In issue #26, we speak with Eric Meyer about CSS, Web Standards, Google IO, the Death of IE6, Javascript and the web as a platform.
We kick-off the show in a most-unusual way this week. Intro topics include: neckbeards, mouthbreathing, stunt boots* and Google Wave. It’s clear that we {co-hosts} are going to have a blast on future episodes.
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Episode 26 topics:
- Why Web Standards are important
- Google I/O Conference stuff, including Google Wave + Google O3D
- The future death of the browser plug-in
- Death to IE6. HOO. RAY.
- CSS3, HTML 5 + delivering experiences for HTML 5 using Javascript
- Javascript over the years: from hack to commonplace awesomeness
- The web as a platform to build-on and the future is now
Q/A Time:
Clinton Christian | @pygeek
HTML 5 makes it easier to design good websites. However, browsers incompatible with these new standards are still largely in use — making work for us designers difficult. Despite it’s recent popularization, how far from now do you think we are from practical use of these new standards?
Jerrod Enders | @jenders
More and more companies are outsourcing the majority of their development to Indian companies these days. It appears to me that most of them are not producing the kind of semantic markup and separation of content and presentation that has become a given to us in the U.S. It’s pretty rare these days to find a web development company that doesn’t at least understand the benefits of this approach.
Have you worked with any of these companies, and if so, what has your experience been? Do you know if there is the same effort going on over there as there has in the U.S. over the last 7 years or so?
Heidi Cool | @hacool
How do you sell naysayers on the importance of Web standards? Too many people poo-poo the idea. These are the same peeps who think tables are better than CSS and shiny design is more important than content and intuitive user interfaces.
Michael Packer | @sTmykal
What’s your take on naming conventions for css ID and class selectors? I try to push the concept of naming a class or ID as it relates to the form and function of the object – describing the object and implying its use within the CSS in order make the CSS document meaningful for whom ever might read the document. It beats the heck out of cryptic names such as “menu” or “left column”.
I’ll explain briefly…. When we want to describe a visual layout of three vertical columns, laid out left to right in the browser view port, we’re tempted to class them as “containerOne”, “container Two” and “container Three”. This sucks.
But really – that does nothing for the value of the content. It doesn’t describe importance or weight of the content contained in the columns. So I suggest calling the containers “container Primary”, “container Secondary”, “container Tertiary”. This way we know what’s important and how to describe the container and its contents in the CSS.
When describing visual order, we should use “first”, “second”, and “third”. And then finally, when we need to describe numeric order, as in a set of data, THEN we should use “one”, “two”, and “three”.
It’s this attention to detail and depth of knowledge of the content that can allow us to more accurately provide meaning to our CSS. At least that’s my belief. I was curious on his take on this level of thought.
*special thanks to @hofmann @craigbirchler for sparking the Stunt Boots concept.
Tagged: 
CSS, ie6, javascript, standards
CSS, ie6, javascript, standards 
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